Question by what is wrong with you people: Christian, did God ever ask you if you wanted to play the game?
I always here christian say that we have free will and free choice. I tell them how can we have free choice if we are punished in hell for the things we choose. They respond to me by telling me that, “God does not send us to hell but we freely choose it with our own free will.” I don’t ever remember God asking me if I wanted to play his sadistic game of life. How then can we have free choice if we never chose to play?
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no I guess he didn’t ask me
Play what.Life is not a game.You better take it serious.You only get one shot and one shot only.
boohoo if you dont it will be 75 yrs and then thats it…..HELL IS JUST GRAVES AND THEN JUDGMENT…HE RUNS THINGS…WE DONT
God definately sends people to hell, but we have free will to choose or reject him. not choosing God is rejecting him
it isnt a game, anymore than a drowning man not choosing to take a rescuers hand is a game
What kind of question is this?
To decide whether or not to do your homework, does your teacher have to ask you if you want to play a game?
free will only says that we have the ability to make our own choices, now what our we choose from or the consequences of those choices have nothing to do with free will.
What is wrong with “us” people? What is wrong with YOU? Jesus took it all for us. So you could live. Nothing would have ever worked out for us had He not done that for us.
There is ABSOLUTELY NO CREDIBLE, VERIFIABLE, TANGIBLE, or IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE that would support the existence of a ‘god’ or a ‘heaven’ or a ‘hell’. When you aren’t having fun at the expense of some ‘christian’ poster, just ignore them. Their comments are the clanging of a mindless bell…
God is not sadistic and faith is not something to be played with. it is obvious by the fact that you are asking this question that you are curious about God but do not know how to ask. Following His ways is easier than what you think. All you have to do is ask. He is on the line all day and all night. Love in christ. I will pray for you.
Well, free will is an age-old argument and I believe that God calls His own people to repentance.
I base my belief on the doctrine of God (particularly, His omniscience). God knows everything all the time; past, present, and future. I also accept the literal interpretation of Romans 8:28-30 where the Apostle Paul declares that there is a group of people who are called to salvation. The passage is specific… God “foreknew” these people and because He foreknew them He also predestined them to be conformed into the likeness of Jesus Christ (changed into the likeness of His Son). In eternity past God determined those whom He would call to salvation. So, those whom He predestined He called (brought them to Jesus Christ), and those whom He called He justified (declared them innocent through Jesus Christ), and those whom He justified He glorified (comformed them into the glorious likness of Jesus Christ).
The context of this passage in Romans chapters 8 & 9 also adds an indisputable dynamic to God’s purpose of election. The election is God’s soveriegn determination of those who are His, i.e. God has determined who His children are. Furthermore, and consequently, there are those who are not His children… does God call that sort to Jesus Christ? Apparently not because in that same passage God is described as a potter who makes many vessels from the same lump of clay… He makes some vessels for honor or noble purposes and He prepares other vessels for destruction (Romans 9:10-24).
The main point is this… God knows His people from eternity past and is currently calling each one to repentance. A person, being one of the “called”, will ultimately be glorified, no exceptions. The is not the general call that comes from a preacher’s mouth who speaks the gospel to an audience. It’s a special call that comes to a believer carrying with it the seed of faith. The seed will flourish in the believer’s heart but will die in all others.
We have to choose to play. Tell me how it works out when you obey God’s every command and eliminate choice from your daily life.
play the game of REALITY OF LIFE
no santa claus, no praying to something that does not exist,
you are in this world to live it in your own way,
no god or anything else will live your life for you
except you.
so live what is real. do you believe in santa claus?
okay then why are you talking about god play what game?
enjoy some ice cream, and some cappuccino and
live your life the true way !
I have free choice to read up on religion and learn that there are over 10,000 religions. of that 10,000 there are Within Christianity, they have identified 34,000 separate groups (denominations, sects, individual unaffiliated churches, para-church groups, etc) in the world. So what god is condemning me to hell again..I cant seem to choose the right one.
When I die, I will be the one to face this god, I don’t care what anyone else thinks since they are not the ones that get to judge me he is.
We don’t have the kind of freewill you’re talking about. We don’t get to choose the situations we’re presented with. We only get to choose how we respond to them.
So you think life sucks? you bitch at the end of a party cuz you got to clean up instead of having Friends and family together and saying wow what a good time we had I am so blessed. you complain cuz you have to work today and it was hard instead of saying thanks Lord for a job so I may provide for me and mine. Now I understand nobody (God) didn’t ask you , your permission to created you nor did your mom or dad I guess you should be pissed at them to instead of just saying thanks
you were the one that asked to “play the game” you just don’t remember doing it. Why don’t you man-up and do something good with your life.
There is no FREE WILL in the Bible stories!
Regardless of any “free will” the Bible writers have their God fully capable to prevent Eve from touching the forbidden fruit in her quest for KNOWLEDGE simply because “God is omniscient” and “God is love.” EVE HAD NO KNOWLEDGE AT ALL that God is good and Satan is evil! God was extremely negligent, or just plain sadist not to provide Eve with a “Guardian Angel” or any intelligence about a TALKING SNAKE aka “that Old Serpent Satan” (Rev 20:2). Eve saw “that the fruit was good to eat” and she ate it in all her innocence! She must have thought that God was wrong again. She “knew” by personal experience that God was not that good, after all. God admitted that his original idea of creating Adam alone was inexcusably “no good” because no animal was found to be suitable to mate with Adam. God really wanted Adam to MATE WITH THE ANIMALS. God and Adam looked hard for an ideal animal, “but no help mate was found for Adam!” (Gen 2:18-20). Even the Judaic Talmud Yebamoth 63a, plainly states that Adam had sexual intercourse with all the animals in the Garden of Eden until he FINALLY had sex with Eve.
Genesis 2:23 (KJV) And Adam said, This is NOW* (*This is the turning point set by the Bible writers, because “BEFORE” Adam was having sexual intercourse only with animals!) bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman.
God put together Eve as an AFTERTHOUGHT! She was NEVER told not to touch the forbidden fruit. God only told Adam not to touch it! In all his innocence he never warned Eve properly! After her fall, God GREATLY INCREASED Eve’s birthing pains that she NEVER experienced YET, also as an AFTERTHOUGHT! Only sadistic perverts writing the Bible would come up with so much sadomasochistic smut in a row that Christians today still deep throat like a charm!
The Christian dogma used against same sex marriage that God created ONE MAN FOR ONE WOMAN from the beginning doesn’t square with any of the Bible stories. Christians abuse gays just for the heck of it! Eve was a put-together thing long after the creation time limitation that God imposed on himself of one week! Nobody knows how many months or years later Adam finally met Eve. By then Adam had a lot of sexual experience with most animals, so he was certainly not acting like a nerd with her!
This Bible God now wants Adam and Eve to be a couple of stupid morons WITHOUT ANY KNOWLEDGE of what’s good and what’s evil. Satan is a fine gentleman. He talked Eve into acquiring knowledge (sort of going to college)! No wonder Lucifer, the most beautiful and intelligent angel ever created and 1/3 of the rest of the angels rebelled against God as soon as they were created! The Bible writers claim that in spite of all the evidence, God was FULLY AWARE of Eve’s impending fall and planned to have God the Son Jesus Christ sent to Earth to be beaten to a pulp, to have him heavily marinated in Roman soldiers’ spit and nailed totally naked by the hands to a fully functional Holy Cross especially designed for the occasion, with foot rest and everything (1 Peter 1:19-20)! Although, there is no historical record that the Romans ever crucified anybody to any cross in Jerusalem. Christians deny that our body is too heavy to hang nailed to a cross by the hands and to be capable of holding long heated conversations with everybody around, in all comfort!
Back in the Garden of Eden God set up a “flaming sword moving back and forth” to ban the access to the “Tree of Life” so no matter how much “free will” Adam and Eve had they couldn’t eat of it and live for ever! God also PREVENTED anybody with a “free will” from killing Cain. So why not providing the same protection to EVE, if the Bible God is really not a “respecter” of persons? Christians are brainwashed to automatically reject any argument that is detrimental to their faith!
God personally intervened and PREVENTED that the Heathen King Abimelech had sex with Abraham’s sister/wife/hooker Sarah so this Heathen king wouldn’t “SIN” against God! God, NOT A GUARDIAN ANGEL, BUT GOD HIMSELF was present in this Heathen King’s Royal Bedroom to PREVENT a questionable sexual tryst that he might have enjoyed with Sarah! BTW, ABIMELECH in Hebrew means, “my Dad is God MOLECH.” God Molech has a fetish for children sacrificed by fire (Jer 32:35)! God Molech competes with the Bible God for human sacrifices (Judges 11:31,34-35) Neither the Bible God in all his bragging of “omnipresence” nor a Guardian Angel was anywhere near Eve, or the untouchable “fruit of knowledge” tree to prevent that the WHOLE HUMAN RACE that “God loves so much” end up tormented in a “sulfuric fire” burning Hell for ever and ever! Obviously the Bible writers were a bunch of religious sadistic perverts creating a God like this!
Genesis 20:2-6 …and there Abraham said of his wife Sarah, “She is my sister.”* (*incest [inbreeding] was ALLOWED, COMMANDED and ENFORCED by law [Numbers 36:8]!) Then Abimelech king of Gerar sent for Sarah and took her. But God came to Abimelech IN A DREAM ONE NIGHT* (*only this Bible God knows how many nights he was busy peeping-Tom at him! No wonder so many children are starving to death in the world! God is busy messing in people’s bedrooms!) and said to him, “You are as good as dead because of the woman you have taken; she is a married woman.”* (*It is OK with God if Sarah had no husband! God WAITED UNTIL HE TOOK SARAH and he must have pleasurized himself watching them having sex!) Now Abimelech had not gone near her* (*at least that night, but the king was aware that the Bible God was watching him all the time because of his lack of surprise!), so he said, “Lord, will you destroy an innocent nation?* (*God and this Heathen king discuss National Security issues in a dream!!! Too bad FOX News was not there to interview the king!) Did he not say to me, `She is my sister,’ and didn’t she also say, `He is my brother’?* (*can you imagine this Holy man of God Abraham the virtual father of the Jews, Christians and Muslims handing over his 90 year old horny sister/wife Sarah without any objection for the unrestricted sexual pleasure of this Heathen king by the name of “MY DAD IS GOD MOLECH?” In spite of her age, Sarah must have been a very sexy horny trick! The Jewish Bible writers love to brag about their women!) I HAVE DONE THIS WITH A CLEAR CONSCIENCE AND CLEAN HANDS.” Then God said to him in the dream, “Yes, I know you did this with a CLEAR CONSCIENCE* (*so as long as you do it with a clear conscience and clean hands you can’t possibly commit any “sin” against this whimsical Bible God, or can you? Well, maybe you can if you are a woman like Eve!), and so I have kept you from sinning against me* (*this chauvinistic Bible God is very fond of King Abimelech, “My Dad is God Molech!”). That is why I did not let you touch her.”
It would have been so nice of God to say to EVE, “I have kept you from sinning against me. That is why I did not let you touch the fruit of knowledge!” But the smutty Bible writers didn’t give any thought to Eve and the rest of humanity (honestly, they didn’t know that later on the Christians will use their “sacred” script loopholes to come up with a NEW TEWSTAMENT sending everybody to Hell. Nothing beats a NEW TESTAMENT OF THE BIBLE GOD to validate the Christian religion). Most Christians hardly know anything about God Molech, but the JWs do and they are trying hard to cover up for God Jehovah claiming that Jephthah’s daughter was not torched on the Altar of the LORD, but she ONLY had her virginity “sacrificed”, with a dildo? Why not with a real man and fulfill God’s command to “be fruitful and multiply?” God doesn’t want any virgins! In the Bible story this girl was EAGER to be sacrificed unto God in a sweet smelling burnt offering after her throat was slashed according to the procedure in God’s Law (Jud 11:31)! ISRAEL made it into a 4 day yearly celebration in her honor (Jud 11:39-40).
Anyway, to fix his goofs God is “pleased” to send God the Son Jesus Christ to Earth to be totally beaten to a pulp, thoroughly tenderized, and heavily marinated in Roman soldiers’ spit so he can be nailed totally naked to a Holy Cross as a “worthy lamb of God taking away the sins of the world.” NO HUMAN BEING can possible be an honest preacher believing all the crap in the Bible. THEY DEPEND ON “spiritually speaking” ALL THE TIME according to the dogmas of their Christian brand!
Jesus was terrified about dying at the Holy Cross! He was sweating blood praying “to pass the cup” to his Sadistic Heavenly Father, hey Dad, wouldn’t have been much easier to stop Eve from eating the forbidden fruit? In contrast, any Muslim fundamentalist wouldn’t give a thought about blowing himself up to smithereens to please Allah! I have a great respect for Islam!
I Timothy 2:14-15 (NIV) And Adam was not the one deceived; IT WAS THE WOMAN WHO WAS DECEIVED AND BECAME A SINNER* (*Yeah… all them nasty women!). BUT WOMEN WILL BE SAVED THROUGH CHILDBEARING* (*Thank God! Virgin girls, nuns and sterile women are out of luck! But they can keep trying…!)
The Bible stories are so silly that it is no joke! Serious Christians totally ignore anything in the Bible that is detrimental to their faith!
Nice Question Indeed … can you tell me how much time you alllow or ask your mind to take breath?? or can you tell me how much time you ask your Heart to pump the blood ??? is it you asking your Breath or Heart to play their game or just it is happening .. ??
OK, so let me get this right. We chose to go into a world where we will be punished for all we do? Were we drunk at the time? It is a harsh game I say. I see it more as a learning lab where we come here to experience the worst that can happen. Why? So we know what not to do and how we can make our after lives better. (But yes, I don’t remember signing up for this game. Then again, I believe I had to sign twice for a single package that the post office dropped off. That was odd…..wait a minute…)
You cant have free choice as long as you are so deep into the Devils pocket. Your committed already and you make that quite clear.
Who asked God if He wanted to play the game? Satan screwed up and God arranged salvation. For this you condemn Him for playing games? Seems your the one playing games here.
You have to understand that everybody has the option and choice,and this is it, accept what Jesus did for you by dying for your sins so that you can spend eternity in paradise Or refuse to receive Jesus as your personal Savior and spend eternity in Hell.Your choice! God has done everything that He can do to keep you out of hell by putting your punish on Jesus.He can’t do any more than sacrifice His only Son. He played the Game. and you can win or loose, Your chouce
Yes. Everyone who comes to Earth and receives a body has chosen to accept the plan of Salvation.
We lived before this life in the Premortal Spirit World…there was a war in heaven there…the spirits who accepted the plan of Salvation get to come to earth and receive a body…But those who rejected the plan do not receive a body.
When you build a house, Do you stand on the empty lot and say “House, tell me just how you want to be situated on this lot. Tell me how many rooms should I build. Would you like to be a ranch style house, all on one floor, or would you like to be a big two story with grand pillars holding up the portico?” No, I think not. When you decide to build a house YOU decide where, when, and how each detail will be built into that house.
It is the same with God. He makes you just the way you are for a purpose. He was there in your mother’s womb when you were created. He knitted you together, nerves, bone, muscle, and brain cells. You have the hair color, eye color, build, talents, and personality he chose for you. He knows you are a person who is strong and willful. He loves you just the way you are, but you still owe him respect and honor.
He knows you have questions. He invites you to come to Him and ask ANYTHING you want to know. If you will ask, believing that He will answer, He will. Most of the time you will find the answer to your question in His word. Sometimes He speaks through others. Sometimes he speaks directly to your mind in a still small voice. When this happens, and it is rare, you will hear one sentence or just a phrase. Pay Attention!
He IS the Authority. It is His ball game. You would do well to accept that, and in your terms “learn to play the game”. It really isn’t a game you know. It involves your place in eternity. It is the most serious subject you will ever ponder. Please do so soberly. God Bless You.
Because God is creater, you would not be here if it wasn’t for Him! And God understands what is right and just, we do not. We have so little understanding of the truth. You have to seek God to help you understand.
LIFE IS NOT A GAME….DONT WORRY LIFE WILL END…IF IYOU DONT WISH TO REPENT, PERMANENT DEATH IS WAITING…