Q&A: Creationist who use answers in genesis, what do you think of this?

Question by tylertxan: Creationist who use answers in genesis, what do you think of this?
Pastor Biker utilized many of these worthless arguements–trying to convince someone by subtrafuge is the same thing as lying so I wouldn’t think a good christian would print such trash–but at any way–Bikers arguements refuted and a good kick in the seat to answers in genesis.

The Australia based Answers in Genesis (http://www.answersingenesis.org/intro.as… is one of the more strident of the young earth creationist organizations. It is a repository of a zillion (and growing) or so articles “proving” that the earth is young. As an antidote for such nonsense, try the alternate site No Answers in Genesis (http://home.austarnet.com.au/stear/defau…

As for Evidence for a Young World (http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs/400… it’s not only typical of the creationist “shotgun” approach (list so many “evidences” that it’s too much work to bother answering), but also pretty stupid. Just look at some of Humphreys’ “evidences” for a young earth: Agriculture is too recent and History is too short. Those are supposed to have something to do with the age of the earth? That’s so stupid it’s unbelievable that somebody with a post grade school education would even suggest it, let alone somebody who really does have a PhD in physics.

As for the “scientific” reasons, they are for the most part, easy to refute, if you know enough about the science to get past the creationist fluff.

Galaxies wind themselves up too fast is known as the “winding dilemma” in astrophysics, but it has long since been solved. The dilemma goes away as soon as you realize that spiral arms are not rigid structures, but traveling waves. The stars don’t move to create spiral arms, but the waves travel through the stars to create the spiral pattern. The solution is ignored by creationists who don’t want you to know that there is a solution.

Comets disintegrate too quickly would be a problem if there was no source for new comets to replace the old ones. Creationists simply assume without reason that there cannot be such a source. But astronomers continue to find evidence that both the Kuiper belt and Oort cloud are where they are expected to be (see A Response to the Short Period Comets Argument (http://www.tim-thompson.com/resp9.html))…

Not enough mud on the sea floor and Not enough sodium in the sea are bogus arguments that have nothing at all to do with the age of the earth. Both are examples of highly variable geologic processes. Creationists try to argue that sea water sodium would build up to its present level in a mere 42 million years, so the earth can’t be much older. But if you use the same argument for aluminum, the maximum age for the earth turns out to be 100 years. That should ring a bell somewhere, but creationists can’t hear it.

The Earth’s magnetic field is decaying too fast is an argument that is too circular. the only way to support such an argument is to presuppose a young earth, and ignore just about everything anybody knows about magnetohydrodynamics. Bogus pseudo-science (see On Creation Science and the Alleged Decay of the Earth’s Magnetic Field (http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/magfield…

Many strata are too tightly bent was written by a physicist who flunked geology I guess, or didn’t take a course in continuum mechanics. Rock under pressure is plastic and bends without cracking. Duh. So far as I can tell, the injected sandstone argument is another example of the same fallacy.

Fossil radioactivity shortens geologic ‘ages’ to a few years, except that the polonium halos aren’t actually polonium halos (see the Polonium Halo FAQS (http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/po-halos…

Helium in the wrong places isn’t quite as bad as the others, but it’s still pretty lame. They do not in fact account for loss of ionized helium around the earth’s magnetic poles, and the helium outgassing & loss rates are not constant with time anyway.

Not enough stone age skeletons is based on the rather shakey asumption that there must be 4 billion of them (why?). It’s also based on the equally shakey assumption that we should have found them (where would you dig?). It’s just an invention.

So much for Answers in Genesis. Young earth creationism is about as scientifically bogus as it is possible to be, just one made up tale after another. But they could at least try to be more imaginative.

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18 Responses to “Q&A: Creationist who use answers in genesis, what do you think of this?”

  1. Matthew says:

    Bible chronology reveals that this world was created 6,000 years ago.

  2. Nickolai =) says:

    Evolution is an excuse for people not wanting to acknowledge that there is a God.

  3. Liberal AssKicker says:

    Too long to read and uninteresting.

    I never use creationist material, I come up with my own. Creationists are for the most part people who ignore both the Bible and Science at least in some way to arrive at erroneous and easily refutable conclusions.

    That doesn’t mean the Bible is wrong, it just means most creationists are idiots.

  4. moderndaypuritan1 says:

    The differences in most of what you just posted has to do with your presuppositions. Old earth have theirs, young earthers do too. Big deal.

    By the way, blocking people from seeing and answering your questions is pretty worthless don’t you think, since we can always log in under a different account name. Are you scared that I might post something truthful that affects your conscience?

  5. Jabberwock says:

    With respect, Pastor Biker isn’t exactly famous for his accurate and reliable posts…

  6. zoltar says:

    The relation between the age of the earth and agriculture is logical for them, because they believe mankind arrived on earth a week after the creation of earth.

  7. Your Assistant says:

    Well written and I agree, totally. The earth is not young and many christians just say that God majically made the earth with age already so humans started on an already aged earth 10,000 years ago or 7,000 the things that are done to try to prove religion is correct. Amazing. Now, I come from one of those families and when I was younger got a degree in theology and that is WHY I know it is not true, the more I studied honestly and without bias the more I realized it did not fit reality.
    Good Statement,
    Your Assistant

  8. Nans says:

    You actually think that this would talk anyone out of believing AiG is a credible source?

    Darwinism is a joke, and one day you will figure it out. Maybe not.

  9. magpieix A.L.M.N. says:

    What you posted may be true, but it’s not a question.

  10. Geezah says:

    Um, if creationists can’t even be bothered with reading AIG’s list of “arguments you shouldn’t use” and still use them, what makes you think they’ll bother to read this “question” of yours?

  11. Barris says:

    lol

    Ken Ham has creationist museums

    Thats right, he has dinosaurs that were found, named and studied by the scientists he doesnt trust, and he puts models of them in his museum (the models that scientists made that predicted how they would look, bone structure, skin, ect, nobody knows what a dinosaur looked like), skin and all, some of them arent even real dinosaurs. Then he puts people riding on them.

    Anybody see something wrong with this picture?

  12. Fireball says:

    wow way too long….IM NOT IMPRESSED WITH SCIENCE OR THEORIES WHICH CONTAIN ALOT OF LIES…..THERE ARE NO FOSSILS IN BETWEEN APES AND MEN….SO THAT HOLDS NO WATER….please dont bring this subj here….TIRH

  13. Rico JPA says:

    Don’t worry. As those arguments are refuted, they’ll move them onto their “arguments not to use” page, and invent more to keep us all amused.

    http://www.answersingenesis.org/get-answers/topic/arguments-we-dont-use

  14. D says:

    That’s a lot of work to ask a question that most creationists will only answer with “I don’t believe it!” People who don’t believe in the Young Earth theory will just say “Because they are dumb!” Either way, no one will answer seriously

    Maybe you should have asked some more specific questions instead of trying to post a convincing argument. The people who end up posting on internet forums are generally the ones who feel strongly one way or the other. You aren’t going to gain any converts to your side, whether hyper-religious, atheist, or somewhere in between. Also, it would seem that a lot more would need to be put into trying to present an airtight argument refuting everything that Young Earth people believe than a simple post on YA. I understand where you are coming from, though. The Young Earth people are pretty exacerbating, aren’t they?

  15. truthseeker says:

    Good try. But you know darn well creationists are impervious to reality, evidence, and facts. The only thing they do well is to show their ignorance.

    Here’s an example.

    Fireball: “THERE ARE NO FOSSILS IN BETWEEN APES AND MEN….SO THAT HOLDS NO WATER.”

    Hey, Fireball, look at this:
    http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/hominids.html

  16. starpenta says:

    Wow. I’m actually interested in what you’re saying but it is a little bit overwhelming. A lot to read…It’s nice to know there’s an alternative website, though:-)

  17. Hannah S says:

    Well thank you for clearing that up. Now I have some facts to use the next time my mom has one of her ranting creationist moments.
    Hat’s off to you.

  18. jena-1 says:

    EVIL DOERS WILL END:

    The 6130 years given for Satan. Rev.12:3,4,6-11,12; this serpent, dragon, Devil, accuser as Job 2:1-6; Murderer and liar, John 8:44; antichrist, from Eden [ Eze.28:13-15, 3:1-5 where Eve and Adam knew true facts and evil existed before them all, same as the anointed cherub angel knew, and all these angels knew, Gen.2:22; 6: 2.4, ], he and enemies of, Heb.1:1-13; are with Satan, to have 5980 years before the short time in the time of the end with Michael, while they are down, the first resurrected firstfruits, 1Cor.15:22-28,51-53; redeemed from earth to be with Jesus, will be, as Michael is there to the last, 1Thes.4:15-17; and in Rev.20:1-6, all to be with Jesus are with him for no Satan 1000 years and after the 1000 years, Rev.20:7-10, no more Satan or any like him.

    AGE OF UNIVERSE OR EARTH IS NOT A SUBJECT IN THE BIBLE

    Gen.1:1,2; Job 38:4-7,30-32; Gen.1:3-25; no time is given, John 17:5,24, Rev.3:14; no time given the one we call Jesus who was with God before the world was and at, Gen.1:26; onto John 3:16; 1Cor. 15: 26; as Lord and Savior, the last thing to be destroyed is death, Heb.2: 9, 14, Jesus must destroy the one who has power over death, that is the Devil, at Rev.20:7-10, after his 1000 year reign and Satan has had more than 7130 years from Eden, there is no more Satan.

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